Comments on: The State of Sports Games http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Russ http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Russ Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:40:21 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-36 After playing the latest demos of FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer over Live, I came to a similar realization. I have played soccer all of my life, I love to watch it on TV, and I used to love playing the games as well. I haven't bought a FIFA game since '04 and haven't really enjoyed one since '01. All these years they stripped out the things that weren't "true" to the sport and continued to add complexity to the controls (much the way they have tooled Madden over the years) in an attempt to "catch up" to PES in terms of realism. Doing so eliminated the high scoring debauchery of simple through passes leading to one on one's with the goalie and swinging in crosses for near automatic scoring. It may not have been real, but they lost one thing that set it apart from the sim-like qualities of it's competition: fun. After playing the latest demos of FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer over Live, I came to a similar realization. I have played soccer all of my life, I love to watch it on TV, and I used to love playing the games as well. I haven’t bought a FIFA game since ’04 and haven’t really enjoyed one since ’01. All these years they stripped out the things that weren’t “true” to the sport and continued to add complexity to the controls (much the way they have tooled Madden over the years) in an attempt to “catch up” to PES in terms of realism. Doing so eliminated the high scoring debauchery of simple through passes leading to one on one’s with the goalie and swinging in crosses for near automatic scoring. It may not have been real, but they lost one thing that set it apart from the sim-like qualities of it’s competition: fun.

]]> By: Forgotten Lore » Blog Archive » Unafraid of Elegant Complexity http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Forgotten Lore » Blog Archive » Unafraid of Elegant Complexity Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:16:01 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-33 [...] at Flash of Steel, Troy Goodfellow posted some comments on another blog entry by Zack Hiwiller. Zacks’ assertion, if I read it correctly, was that modern sports games like NBA 2k8 were [...] [...] at Flash of Steel, Troy Goodfellow posted some comments on another blog entry by Zack Hiwiller. Zacks’ assertion, if I read it correctly, was that modern sports games like NBA 2k8 were [...]

]]> By: State of Sports Games : buttonmashing.com http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-27 State of Sports Games : buttonmashing.com Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:04:36 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-27 [...] across this post from Zack Hiwiller (via a long list of places, originating with Troy) about the State of Sports Games: How many people out there watch and enjoy football without having a Knute Rockney [sic] level of [...] [...] across this post from Zack Hiwiller (via a long list of places, originating with Troy) about the State of Sports Games: How many people out there watch and enjoy football without having a Knute Rockney [sic] level of [...]

]]> By: Tony http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Tony Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:27:35 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-26 <blockquote>How many more people would pick up and play Madden if they didn’t need to know what a formation was?</blockquote>My guess is not many? You've got a ton of good points here, as I agree that sports games can get too complicated very quickly. But if you don't care to know what a formation is, I strongly doubt you'll have much interest in playing Madden, no matter how simple it is. Otherwise, very good points.

How many more people would pick up and play Madden if they didn’t need to know what a formation was?

My guess is not many?

You’ve got a ton of good points here, as I agree that sports games can get too complicated very quickly. But if you don’t care to know what a formation is, I strongly doubt you’ll have much interest in playing Madden, no matter how simple it is.

Otherwise, very good points.

]]> By: Starting at the Cliff Face http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Starting at the Cliff Face Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:16:27 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-25 [...] and silently tell yourself that this is what you’ve been complaining about for years. Sports games are too hard. More precisely, they are very difficult for new or lapsed gamers to get into; they require you to [...] [...] and silently tell yourself that this is what you’ve been complaining about for years. Sports games are too hard. More precisely, they are very difficult for new or lapsed gamers to get into; they require you to [...]

]]> By: z a c k h i w i l l e r » Eggrolls! Revenge! http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/comment-page-1/#comment-20 z a c k h i w i l l e r » Eggrolls! Revenge! Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:50:34 +0000 http://www.hiwiller.com/2007/11/02/the-state-of-sports-games/#comment-20 [...] The State of Sports Games [...] [...] The State of Sports Games [...]

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